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    gan on then. Outside with the red crew, mofo

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    beltram imo rocks, productions aside like the start it up etc and ya mentasim ..... **** what a track. i remember when beltram played voodoo when it was at clear, that was one of my best nights of my life omg :lol: :lol: maybe i am swayed becouse of this

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    At a push I'd say JB, but only because of the quality of releases he used to put out. The last time I saw him he was a massive let down, playing disco and noodly tech-house all night, but this was about 2/3 years ago.

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    ive never seen either of these guys perform, but on the production side of things i probably prefer rockcliffe. he used to be one of my fav producers a few years ago, but his grooves became a little too laid back for my liking.

    if i was to attend a night though, i think beltram would be a more attractive prospect.

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    1st 2nd and 3rd of all.
    Rockliffe is good for grooves straight up. When you get a Trevor ep you know you can warm up a techno crowd and peak a house crowd.

    But Beltram??

    My man has programmed some of the hottest techno in the history of the music so me being satisfied with the new cut and paste approach he has with loops..... ah ah nah. Last year he came out with a track that was pretty much the same track as Olav Basoski on samplitude. Very disappointing, and I am not knocking the man at all he's more than paid his dues, I met him when I was sixteen and into graffiti and he was an established graffiti writer as well, he was a sound guy totally. But I think he can and should combine his programming talent with his loop capabilities and belt out some more Memorable stuff instead of Loop Disco with a techno kick.
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    Beltram, no question about it. Well back in the days that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    1st 2nd and 3rd of all.
    Rockliffe is good for grooves straight up. When you get a Trevor ep you know you can warm up a techno crowd and peak a house crowd.

    But Beltram??

    My man has programmed some of the hottest techno in the history of the music so me being satisfied with the new cut and paste approach he has with loops..... ah ah nah. Last year he came out with a track that was pretty much the same track as Olav Basoski on samplitude. Very disappointing, and I am not knocking the man at all he's more than paid his dues, I met him when I was sixteen and into graffiti and he was an established graffiti writer as well, he was a sound guy totally. But I think he can and should combine his programming talent with his loop capabilities and belt out some more Memorable stuff instead of Loop Disco with a techno kick.

    you have hit the nail on the head there my friend

    Beltram's tunes nowadays are so frustrating compared to his older material
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    Stricly from the dj-ing side of things, Rockclife pisses all over Beltram.....his mixing is way, waaaay tighter, and his track selection is better. For those of you who have described Rockcliffe's sound as tech-house, or in some way laid back, I think you must not have heard him for a while, 'cos he plays a lot harder than Beltram.
    I've heard Rickcliffe about 8 times in the last 7 yrs and 7 out of 8 times he totally rocked it. Heard Beltram about 2 yrs ago.......sloppy mixing, and played loads of his own filtered productions, which caused the set to sound like one long filtered, slightly cheesy Beltram record.

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    You're wrong, and you're a grotesquely ugly freak.

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    Um, production wise Rockcliffe is utter pap. Mindless looped dull shit, would rather listen to the sound of my intestines being slapped against the wall. I remember being a young(er) naive techno head eager to hear the music I loved in London and going to Ultimate Base, only to be bored to murderousness by Jim ****ing Masters and TR. Load of shite for sure.

    It hardly qualifies as techno, depends how you perceive it and how low your standards fall.

    (disclaimer - I'm pissed, so likely to be over abusive - I still maintain that our trev is a bollocks DJ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by subsonic
    i was just asking mate as i would like to know what people think of dj's i want to book thats all mate
    Fair enough, I just think DJs/Acts should be judged on their own merit, I don't think these kind of comparisons really work, because you'll always get one group of people going "I love DJ 'A', DJ 'B' is a pile of shit" and the other group of people disagreeing...

    Why not check out some mixes, would probably give you a bit of a better idea....

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    Quote Originally Posted by crime
    Quote Originally Posted by subsonic
    i was just asking mate as i would like to know what people think of dj's i want to book thats all mate
    Fair enough, I just think DJs/Acts should be judged on their own merit, I don't think these kind of comparisons really work, because you'll always get one group of people going "I love DJ 'A', DJ 'B' is a pile of shit" and the other group of people disagreeing...

    Why not check out some mixes, would probably give you a bit of a better idea....
    i know what i think of them iwas just testing the water on what everybody else thought ;)
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